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	<title>Comments on: Another quick comparison: shoot through umbrella vs. bounced /w cover</title>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
		<link>http://onebrightspot.com/blog/2009/02/02/another-quick-comparison-shoot-through-umbrella-vs-bounced-w-cover/comment-page-1/#comment-292</link>
		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2010 11:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice comparison. Thanks for taking the time to do this and including the wide shots.

Another shoot-thru option:  I&#039;ve been using 42&quot; shoot-thru umbrellas that have a covered flat side. It&#039;s reflective white on the inside and opaque black on the outside. The two big advantages are: 1. more light is forced out the front, not bounced back and wasted into the room. And, 2. it&#039;s not so obnoxious for others in the room when the flashes go off. [At cancer patient seminars I set up a small portrait studio with two lights and a backdrop to shoot groups of 2-5 people. I usually share an area with the snack tables or something similar, so it&#039;s nice to not be blasting the rest of the room behind me.]

Sometimes the space I get for my mini-portrait studio is pretty limited so shoot-thru umbrellas are excellent choice since I can have them very close to the subjects.

The disadvantage of the backing is I cannot have the umbrella extend too far from the flash for wider light spread. That&#039;s easily remedied using an Omnibounce diffuser on the flash inside the umbrella. The other disadvantage is that the umbrella cannot be angled down too far before the edge bumps into the lightstand. This is usually not much of a problem since shoot-thrus work pretty well (for portraits anyway) close in and aimed only slightly down or horizontal.

Because I have to fly to locations, I&#039;m trying to figure ways to reduce weight and volume of my &quot;mini-studio&quot; kit, so I am considering switching to &quot;open-back&quot; shoot-thru umbrellas which weigh a few ounces less and have about half the volume. (This is in addition to creatively cutting weight/volume in bigger ways.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice comparison. Thanks for taking the time to do this and including the wide shots.</p>
<p>Another shoot-thru option:  I&#8217;ve been using 42&#8243; shoot-thru umbrellas that have a covered flat side. It&#8217;s reflective white on the inside and opaque black on the outside. The two big advantages are: 1. more light is forced out the front, not bounced back and wasted into the room. And, 2. it&#8217;s not so obnoxious for others in the room when the flashes go off. [At cancer patient seminars I set up a small portrait studio with two lights and a backdrop to shoot groups of 2-5 people. I usually share an area with the snack tables or something similar, so it's nice to not be blasting the rest of the room behind me.]</p>
<p>Sometimes the space I get for my mini-portrait studio is pretty limited so shoot-thru umbrellas are excellent choice since I can have them very close to the subjects.</p>
<p>The disadvantage of the backing is I cannot have the umbrella extend too far from the flash for wider light spread. That&#8217;s easily remedied using an Omnibounce diffuser on the flash inside the umbrella. The other disadvantage is that the umbrella cannot be angled down too far before the edge bumps into the lightstand. This is usually not much of a problem since shoot-thrus work pretty well (for portraits anyway) close in and aimed only slightly down or horizontal.</p>
<p>Because I have to fly to locations, I&#8217;m trying to figure ways to reduce weight and volume of my &#8220;mini-studio&#8221; kit, so I am considering switching to &#8220;open-back&#8221; shoot-thru umbrellas which weigh a few ounces less and have about half the volume. (This is in addition to creatively cutting weight/volume in bigger ways.)</p>
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		<title>By: Juanita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juanita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 20:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THANK YOU so much!! I&#039;m such a visual learner and simply needed the comparisons to help me understand. I know that making my own examples would have been a great learning step for myself, but its much easier to see when someone else does it.
THANKS! 
Juanita</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THANK YOU so much!! I&#8217;m such a visual learner and simply needed the comparisons to help me understand. I know that making my own examples would have been a great learning step for myself, but its much easier to see when someone else does it.<br />
THANKS!<br />
Juanita</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 05:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey thanks for this v usefull however would of been more illuminating (oh dear) if you would have corrected the exposure on each shot rather than left settings the same. R x</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey thanks for this v usefull however would of been more illuminating (oh dear) if you would have corrected the exposure on each shot rather than left settings the same. R x</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Vorpahl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob Vorpahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 14:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, unfortunately I don&#039;t own any of those and based off of my use of umbrellas, I&#039;m not sure if I would them often enough to purchase them.  But, if I ever get them, I&#039;ll be sure to put up a comparison with all of them. Thanks for reading!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, unfortunately I don&#8217;t own any of those and based off of my use of umbrellas, I&#8217;m not sure if I would them often enough to purchase them.  But, if I ever get them, I&#8217;ll be sure to put up a comparison with all of them. Thanks for reading!</p>
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		<title>By: Otto Haring</title>
		<link>http://onebrightspot.com/blog/2009/02/02/another-quick-comparison-shoot-through-umbrella-vs-bounced-w-cover/comment-page-1/#comment-261</link>
		<dc:creator>Otto Haring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 00:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post! Did you try umbrellas with silver and gold surface?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! Did you try umbrellas with silver and gold surface?</p>
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		<title>By: Umbrella vs. Softbox - Digital Photography Tips and Techniques</title>
		<link>http://onebrightspot.com/blog/2009/02/02/another-quick-comparison-shoot-through-umbrella-vs-bounced-w-cover/comment-page-1/#comment-221</link>
		<dc:creator>Umbrella vs. Softbox - Digital Photography Tips and Techniques</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 05:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Muliadi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muliadi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 03:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacob,
Thanks for the comparison.
It seems like the umbrella gives out more light because light is bouncing all over the place.
I really would like to know if there isn&#039;t any reflector(walls). Just the impact of light hitting the subject matter without ambient light.

In this comparison, I realized that the umbrella gives out hotspot. 

I&#039;m still curious with the softbox. What if you try to put the flash more power on the softbox. I just wanted how it handle hotspot over umbrella.

If I have a softbox, I do it. I don&#039;t trust my DIY enough. It gives me the look that I wanted but really curious about non-homemade SB.

Thanks for taking the time to share.

Muliadi S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacob,<br />
Thanks for the comparison.<br />
It seems like the umbrella gives out more light because light is bouncing all over the place.<br />
I really would like to know if there isn&#8217;t any reflector(walls). Just the impact of light hitting the subject matter without ambient light.</p>
<p>In this comparison, I realized that the umbrella gives out hotspot. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m still curious with the softbox. What if you try to put the flash more power on the softbox. I just wanted how it handle hotspot over umbrella.</p>
<p>If I have a softbox, I do it. I don&#8217;t trust my DIY enough. It gives me the look that I wanted but really curious about non-homemade SB.</p>
<p>Thanks for taking the time to share.</p>
<p>Muliadi S.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the shots. Both this and the softbox vs. umbrella helped out a lot. And yes, I fear your ninja skills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the shots. Both this and the softbox vs. umbrella helped out a lot. And yes, I fear your ninja skills.</p>
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		<title>By: Umbrella vs. Softbox: a quick comparison &#124; OneBrightSpot.com- Jacob Vorpahl's Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Umbrella vs. Softbox: a quick comparison &#124; OneBrightSpot.com- Jacob Vorpahl's Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 18:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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